Day 1029: Toehold

I talked about my thinking about the relationship between the CPJCT and the Darkside.

#tommw 52F calm. Mostly clear

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6 Responses to Day 1029: Toehold

  1. Jamie Wyrick says:

    Woo-hoo! You were animated and sounded excited about yesterday’s pondering’s. We gotta get that particular crew back more often. Or else just have you standing in the yard pondering:)

    A gnome suit to wear so you won’t seem odd or strange standing out there for hours… okay, you can beat me with straw broom now.;)

    I don’t know if I missed anything in the chat, but you might consider this aspect of Toe-Hole – ship’s like the Lois ran a usual trading route. She was well known and easily recognized because she always ran the same runs, she was landed at the same space stations, mostly the same off-loader tractors a lot of times, and people etc. Every so often a ship would be scheduled, refitted/repaired, and at some point someone would determine to say they were too costly use any longer and so the ship wound up at the breaker’s. Really? Would such valuable “every” single ship be scrapped, or might some ships be slipped out into the Toe Hole and continued working, refitted as needed, reassigned a new Toe-Hold crew? But ASSIGNED completely different trading routes?

    Could you imagine then feeling of shiver going up Ishmael’s back at seeing something he loved and thought was gone forever, and Pip being an agent thinking and starting to realize,’what the Fuck?, both knowing the Lois McKendrick had been broken up, gone forever, and suddenly they run across her in the Dark (Toe-Hole), reappearing out of that darkness, could be using a different ID signal or the very same since she travels different roads now, perhaps using the same name?, or a different name but ‘something’ that makes her fully recognizable to them.

    Okay, I love to ponder, too. šŸ˜›

  2. Jamie Wyrick says:

    Oh, one more thing – why was that one man bidding for the ‘death ship’ so anxious to go as high as something like $300 million?, wasn’t it and then showed such disgust at loosing the bid. He’d had two other opportunities to grab her and seemed to be waiting for what he thought was going a be that much lower bid. She was an Unwin Barbell and well worth a high price for Toe-Hold to use to move lots more of supplies at once.

  3. Robert Evans says:

    I think that John Scalzi, in his Old Man’s War universe, refers to unauthorized colony worlds as wildcat colonies, a possible reference to the “wildcat” days of oil exploration, where anyone with well-drilling equipment could go outside the purview of the major oil companies and do some independent drilling/exploration.

    Michael Z. Williamson has a popular series called the Freehold universe in which his subject planet, the Freehold of Grainge, is independent from Earth’s United Nations government. Toehold might be too similar in concept to Freehold, at least as a term for such an independent colony.

    Outpost or Trading Post might be another possibility, terms taken from the fur-trapping days of the Pacific Northwest. Possibly establish a space version of the Hudson’s Bay Company, with planets named Fort (whatever), and the equivalent of “free trappers” banding together to form “Free Trade Outpost” planets.

    Don’t ignore the possibility of planets colonized by religious groups such as the Mormons or the Pilgrims; even in space, dissenters from the majority would wish to find a place to live in peace and independence. Another possibility here is a colony founded by hermits, the equivalent of the Desert Fathers of the Catholic Church.

  4. Richard says:

    The main questions that spring to my mind are:-
    – Are there people working in E&D’s back offices sliding systems off the worth developing list and on to the not worth the time and money list?

    – What are they making out there? is it knock off items that claim they were built in say a Manchester yard with all the appropriate looking tags and paperwork?

    In Jamie Wyrick post above that a bid for the Unwin Barbell was $300 million i thought new they were $20 billion? even at scrap value that seams like a low price. Does that price then come with the cargo that was on board? which then leads Ish and Pip to finding out about the dark side assuming that’s the real route the Chernyakova was on.

    Ah speculation, speculation no one would think that I’m excited for your new books

    • Nathan says:

      – Are there people working in E&D’s back offices sliding systems off the worth developing list and on to the not worth the time and money list?

      Yes. I think Frank actually mentioned this in Full Share.

  5. Jamie Wyrick says:

    [Quote] From Richard: “Does that price then come with the cargo that was on board?[Quote]

    Yep, as I recall the item(s) inside the containers were let sold along with the ship. It wasn’t even told by the auction seller what was inside the containers. I loved Ishmael’s response to Pip, when he was speculating whatever could be inside, that he didn’t even care if it was XXXXXXXXX. LOL

    Since only a few people, including myself were privy to read the beta versions, I feel uncomfortable discussing anything in part of the storyline without Nathan’s say so. I don’t want to ruin the story for anyone.

    And God, Nathan is the very first writer to ever let me read a beta version, especially when I have found a story filled with characters that I love so much, that I find myself wishing the universe existed the story was in. Sigh.

    Nathan’s enthusiasm was really contagious for me this morning. I’ve actually been on a high since and haven’t come down, yet.

    I swear that Monk post seemed less that a third of it’s usual distance in his walk as Nathan was talking about the story. It seemed to me like he was on and off in half the time today.

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